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Topic Starter
Aleks719
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 28 октября 2012 г. at 23:25:45

Artist: Muse
Title: Starlight
Tags: Black Holes and Revelations The Tourist senaya
BPM: 121,5
Filesize: 6126kb
Play Time: 03:57
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,8 stars, 517 notes)
  2. Normal (3,72 stars, 295 notes)
  3. senaya's Easy (2,45 stars, 231 notes)
Download: Muse - Starlight
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This map is #15.
I have dedicated it for you. Yes, for you.
Because we are(*sigh*) were so long together.


P.S. It's hard to say, but now i call this map my break up song.
Tony
1st sexy post :3

[Sexy Timing]
BPM Offset
121,5 422
122,5 87335
121,5 103008
122,5 174119
Topic Starter
Aleks719
Thanks for confirmation! :P
Reiji-RJ
@______@
Beronika
narakucrimson
Tell me when it's finished :D
3GTS_old
Normal
01:01:903 (4) - может чуть выше? что б не вылазил за поле..
02:12:637 (1) - возможно слишком сложно для новичков, лучше сделать спиннер.
02:27:452 (2) - опять поднять чуть
02:28:193 (3) - ^
03:01:955 (1) - может длинный слайдер вместо спиннера?
03:15:670 (2) - spacing...
03:27:425 (1) - ^ или это такое утежеление карты для главной части (припева) ?


Hard
00:29:804 (4) - поставь ноту чуть ниже и чуть правее (увидишь что они расходятся).
00:57:952 (2) - убрать? как-то не очень она после спиннера такого...
01:28:069 (2) - x260 ; y76
01:27:824 (1) - все эти смещения я полагаю так и задуманы, все же если нет...
02:48:933 (2) - поднять в пределы поля
02:54:608 (1) - жестковато и внезапно для харда, я промазал..
03:07:833 (2) - поднять в пределы поля (2)
03:29:384 (1) - я понимаю что кульминация и всё такое, но не слишком ли сложно (я опять намазал)...


И пожалуйста, удали SB оно совсем не в тему а отвлекает здорово...
Topic Starter
Aleks719
something fixed, thanks~
senaya
ты сам этого хотел. derp.
Scorpiour
Hi there~~ mod from queue~~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - just suggestions


[General]
  1. The lowest diff is 3.71 star rating. You should reduce it to 3.24 at least, or make an Easy diff.
  2. I suppose it's better to open epilepsy warning. Despite there's no many pulse or strobing, the rotation effect is not very friendly:)
[Storyboard]
  1. hole.jpg: i'd like to start the rotation since 103008 but not 118810. the rotation could be slightly, e.g.
    _R,2,103008,118810,-0.314,0
    and if you apply that, the scale code:
    _S,0,103008,118810,0.8,1.25
    should be change to
    _S,0,103008,118810,1,1.25
    and i think it could make the effect more smooth:>
[Normal]
  1. i'd like to reduce all HP/CS/AR/OD by 1 for better spread, and it could reduce your star rating to 3.55.
  2. 00:22:397 (3) - i'd like to add a clap at slider end
  3. 00:55:730 - add a note here with finish and delay the beginning of spinner by 1/4 or 1/2 tick?
  4. 01:26:594 (2) - i suppose it's better to reduce the volumn of finish here or remove it, i know here's a cymbal sample here, but an extra finish is heard loud a bit not very comfortable.
  5. 01:27:335 (1) - follow above, i would like to place a finish here to emphasize the downbeat here :>
  6. 01:38:845 - start the spinner here may be better due to the vocal~
  7. 03:05:629 - ^~
  8. 03:12:241 (1,3) - how about this shape?
  9. 03:39:914 (1,2) - i suppose it's too far away from the spinner centre since it's close to spinner on time-line, so i suggest move them to 199:159 (stack with 03:41:139 (1) - )
  10. 03:47:996 - the blank here is weird a bit due to vocal, so i may choose to remove 03:48:241 (7) - and make a 1/2 slider here :>
[Hard]
  1. 00:28:076 (1) - try this shape?
  2. 00:55:483 (4) - hmm..i may choose to place it at 264:144 :>
  3. 01:22:150 (2) - ctrl+g and rotate a bit for both better flow and vocal?
  4. 01:26:594 (2) - same as Normal, the finish here is too loud imo >.<
  5. 02:54:363 - i'd like to make a triplet here for transition where music could support~
that's all ~~ really well made~~~ so star it ~~

look for more stars please ( you need 9 stars from different guys ) and call me back to recheck when you're ready >.<
Topic Starter
Aleks719

Scorpiour wrote:

Hi there~~ mod from queue~~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - just suggestions


[General]
  1. The lowest diff is 3.71 star rating. You should reduce it to 3.24 at least, or make an Easy diff. done!
  2. I suppose it's better to open epilepsy warning. Despite there's no many pulse or strobing, the rotation effect is not very friendly:) discussed via irc, no need to
[Storyboard]
  1. hole.jpg: i'd like to start the rotation since 103008 but not 118810. the rotation could be slightly, e.g.
    _R,2,103008,118810,-0.314,0
    and if you apply that, the scale code:
    _S,0,103008,118810,0.8,1.25
    should be change to
    _S,0,103008,118810,1,1.25
    and i think it could make the effect more smooth:>
    hum, i tried your variant, but can't accept it.
    1. starting scale from 1 with angle -0.314 gives black zones in two corners
    2. lower speed of rotation doesn't provide enough affect
    3. starting scale from more than 1 works bad for SB load and turns black hole in black pixel hole xD
    thanks anyway :)
[Normal]
  1. i'd like to reduce all HP/CS/AR/OD by 1 for better spread, and it could reduce your star rating to 3.55. since i have added easy, it's unnecessary :S
  2. 00:22:397 (3) - i'd like to add a clap at slider end prefer whistle, sounds softer
  3. 00:55:730 - add a note here with finish and delay the beginning of spinner by 1/4 or 1/2 tick? mmm, ok
  4. 01:26:594 (2) - i suppose it's better to reduce the volumn of finish here or remove it, i know here's a cymbal sample here, but an extra finish is heard loud a bit not very comfortable. -15%
  5. 01:27:335 (1) - follow above, i would like to place a finish here to emphasize the downbeat here :> alright!
  6. 01:38:845 - start the spinner here may be better due to the vocal~ why not
  7. 03:05:629 - ^~^
  8. 03:12:241 (1,3) - how about this shape? like it
  9. 03:39:914 (1,2) - i suppose it's too far away from the spinner centre since it's close to spinner on time-line, so i suggest move them to 199:159 (stack with 03:41:139 (1) - ) mm, okay, replaced but in another place
  10. 03:47:996 - the blank here is weird a bit due to vocal, so i may choose to remove 03:48:241 (7) - and make a 1/2 slider here :> would be too many objects in a row, better leave as is :S
[Hard]
  1. 00:28:076 (1) - try this shape? shape changed
  2. 00:55:483 (4) - hmm..i may choose to place it at 264:144 :> remade combo placement
  3. 01:22:150 (2) - ctrl+g and rotate a bit for both better flow and vocal? alright
  4. 01:26:594 (2) - same as Normal, the finish here is too loud imo >.< -15%
  5. 02:54:363 - i'd like to make a triplet here for transition where music could support~ uh.. will be kinda tricky with spacing, better leave as is
that's all ~~ really well made~~~ so star it ~~ thank you!

look for more stars please ( you need 9 stars from different guys ) and call me back to recheck when you're ready >.< orz i'll tryy
mancuso_JM_
Helping you with a Star :D
EDIT: Well, 2 Stars xD
Scorpiour
Going to check new diff that mapper forget to update OvO

NO KDS to this post please

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - just suggestions


[General]
  1. Inconsistent tags in Hard diff - You forget to add senaya
[Senaya's Easy]
  1. 00:19:434 (5) - the reverse arrow touches HP bar
  2. 00:31:286 (3) - i suppose you wanna follow vocal here, but the blank at 00:31:039 - is weird because vocal is start from here. so perhaps the slider could move to prev white tick and add one repeat, or make two 1/2 slider here~

  3. 00:47:088 (4) - ^
  4. 00:58:446 (1) - since this is the lowest diff, this slider may hard for new players to click because it's too close to spinner but far away from centre. My suggestion is end your spinner at 00:57:705 - ~
  5. 01:18:693 (3) - same as 00:31:286
  6. 01:26:594 (4) - recommend to reduce the volumn of finish here
  7. 01:38:845 - start your spinner here for vocal~?
  8. 02:06:711 (4) - i'd like to add a finish here :>
  9. 02:36:094 (3) - remove sliderwhistle here, heard weird
  10. 02:42:267 (1) - ^
  11. 02:49:180 (2) - ^
  12. 02:53:378 (5) - also suggest to reduce the volumn of finish here~
  13. 02:54:119 (1) - add a finish at head?
  14. 03:05:629 - start spinner here?
  15. 03:48:976 (1) - recommend to remove sliderwhistle
that's all ~
Piscis
All suggestion~

[senaya's Easy]
00:37:705 (3) - Add clap to slider end.
00:43:878 (1) - Add whitle to slider start.
00:47:829 (1) - ^
00:50:051 (1) - Add whitle.
00:51:780 (1) - Add whitle to slider start.
00:55:730 (1) - Add whitle.
01:06:347 (1) - Add clap to slider end.
01:17:705 (1) - Add whitle.
01:19:434 (1) - Add whitle to slider start.
01:27:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Put a clap in the same way as other difficulty?
02:23:501 (2) - Add whitle.
02:25:724 (2) - Add clap. is not distance snap...

nice map! star~
senaya

Scorpiour wrote:

[senaya's Easy]
  1. 00:19:434 (5) - the reverse arrow touches HP bar fixed
  2. 00:31:286 (3) - i suppose you wanna follow vocal here, but the blank at 00:31:039 - is weird because vocal is start from here. so perhaps the slider could move to prev white tick and add one repeat, or make two 1/2 slider here~ i like 2nd suggestion. not sure if it's playable for newbies though but changed anyway.

  3. 00:47:088 (4) - ^ ^
  4. 00:58:446 (1) - since this is the lowest diff, this slider may hard for new players to click because it's too close to spinner but far away from centre. My suggestion is end your spinner at 00:57:705 - ~ sure, changed.
  5. 01:18:693 (3) - same as 00:31:286 this part was changed by Aleks, leaviing this to him to decide.
  6. 01:26:594 (4) - recommend to reduce the volumn of finish here changed to 40%
  7. 01:38:845 - start your spinner here for vocal~? okay
  8. 02:06:711 (4) - i'd like to add a finish here :> oh right, forgot. added.
  9. 02:36:094 (3) - remove sliderwhistle here, heard weird true
  10. 02:42:267 (1) - ^ ^
  11. 02:49:180 (2) - ^ ^
  12. 02:53:378 (5) - also suggest to reduce the volumn of finish here~ changed to 40% again
  13. 02:54:119 (1) - add a finish at head? added
  14. 03:05:629 - start spinner here? okay
  15. 03:48:976 (1) - recommend to remove sliderwhistle done
that's all ~ thank you :3

Piscis wrote:

All suggestion~

[senaya's Easy]
00:37:705 (3) - Add clap to slider end. i tried it before and i don't really like how it sounds :<
00:43:878 (1) - Add whitle to slider start. done
00:47:829 (1) - ^ ^
00:50:051 (1) - Add whitle. i don't like it
00:51:780 (1) - Add whitle to slider start. done
00:55:730 (1) - Add whitle. i don't like it
01:06:347 (1) - Add clap to slider end. done
01:17:705 (1) - Add whitle. ^
01:19:434 (1) - Add whitle to slider start. ^
01:27:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Put a clap in the same way as other difficulty? ok
02:23:501 (2) - Add whitle. done
02:25:724 (2) - Add clap. is not distance snap... fixed snapping
here.
Frozen Child
Muse is my favorite band, i'm so glad to see a new muse map

Hard
00:08:323 (1) - switch for a finish?
00:55:730 (1) - finish?
02:22:514 (1) - ^

Normal

00:08:323 (1) - - switch for a finish?

easy

it's ok


Ps: i cannot find "errors" on this map, i think it's perfect

Nice job for who made that diffs.
h3k1ru
o/

[General]

про sb уже говорил в irc, для психоделика надо бы помедленнее ==, трек медленный sb должна быть тоже!

про оффсеты в irc написал http://puu.sh/1ivW5

[senaya's Easy]

когда дорисуешь?

[Normal]

00:22:397 (3) - вистл пропустил наверно

02:14:612 (1) - уменьши громкость на финише

03:28:404 (2) - кривой же

[Hard]

00:35:730 (5,1) - сделал бы спейсинг постоянным o:

well, nothing really to point out, perfect map as usual~
Topic Starter
Aleks719

h3k1ru wrote:

o/

[General]

про sb уже говорил в irc, для психоделика надо бы помедленнее ==, трек медленный sb должна быть тоже! done, 7--> 4.72

про оффсеты в irc написал http://puu.sh/1ivW5 пока хз, пропустим

[Normal]

00:22:397 (3) - вистл пропустил наверно da! or wait... xD

02:14:612 (1) - уменьши громкость на финише ofc

03:28:404 (2) - кривой же no, norm as is

[Hard]

00:35:730 (5,1) - сделал бы спейсинг постоянным o: okay!

well, nothing really to point out, perfect map as usual~

Thank you for your mod, comment and star:3

Updated!
Mercurial
Be strong Aleks, you will find your way, sooner or later.
narakucrimson
Yeah Aleks, cheer up! :D

[General]
  1. SB:
    1. 03:11:751 - Here you start with some fades that seem a bit weird... The usual effect is that the background becomes bigger and fades, but you did exactly the opposite. I don't know if this was on purpose, but it looks preeetty weird.
      I took the time to modify the code a little - and tested it, and looked very good. I hope you like it as well! Here:
      Sprite,Background,Centre,"hole.jpg",320,240
      L,191751,5
      F,0,0,735,1,0.5
      S,0,0,735,0.8,1
      F,0,735,1470,0.5,0
      S,0,735,1470,1,1.1
      F,0,1470,1959,0,0
    2. 03:25:465 - How about adding a flash here, so that the change in spinning direction of the background isn't so sudden? Plus I think it would be hella amazing :D!
  2. Settings:
    1. With the stuff mentioned in the previous point, I don't know if it would be necessary to add an Epilepsy Warning. I'm just making sure to make you consider it, but in my opinion, it isn't needed. Better ask in #lounge or #modhelp anyway.
    2. Personally, I don't like how the countdown sounds in this particular song - the intro is so peaceful and then... The countdown sounds and it's so bleh. I don't know, I'd suggest to remove it, but if you like it you may keep it!
[Senaya's Easy]
  1. 00:37:705 (3) - Ok, Imma be a little nazi about sliders with such a lazy composition xD Here:
    SPOILER

    280,280,37705,2,0,B|332:302|403:284|457:219|442:137|389:85|333:79,1,350
    As a general advice, elaborate your sliders. You'll always get something prettier! :D
    You could improve, for example, this: 01:03:631 (1) -, 01:19:434 (1) - and 02:10:415 (2) - (and maybe some other, but look for them!). Do it as an exercise!
  2. 01:06:347 (1) - Did you, by chance, forget a whistle at the end of this? So it sounds like 00:58:446 (1).
  3. 01:14:496 (2) - I'd add a whistle here, it sounds soo empty right now..
  4. 01:19:434 (1) - And a whistle at the end of this kinda fits too. Remember that these are all suggestions, and you don't need to follow them if you don't agree.
  5. 02:25:724 (2) - Spacing from (1) seems wrong. Can you space it correctly, please?
  6. 02:49:180 (2) - Was the whistle in the sliderbody intentional? I don't think it was... So, remove it, please?
  7. 02:54:119 (1) - Seems like you're missing a finish here!
  8. 03:21:302 (1) - This kinda breaks the sound pattern... I mean...
    I was expecting to hit something at 03:21:547. It feels natural, because of the finishes you had placed so far. So this kinda sounded weird.
    I'd say that something like this could work better. You figure out if you like it, and then how you'd tweak the pattern.
  9. 03:45:057 (1) - I don't dislike how the whistle in the slider body sounds, but I wonder if it was intentional or just something that happened without you knowing about it xD
    However, it doesn't quite fit the hitsounding pattern, so it's logical to remove it. Or maybe not, you decide.
[Normal]
  1. 00:38:446 (2) - Not that this stack may cause too much confusion, but I think it's something avoidable, just in case.
    I'd rather have it unstacked. Something like this could work. Or some other thing. Who knows :P
  2. 00:47:088 (3,1) - Vertically flipping this arrangement (and placing it accordingly) make it flow much, much better in my opinion. You should try it. Oh and try to replace the following elements in case you decide to apply this!
  3. 01:38:845 (1) - You could split this spinner into two, finishing the existing one at 01:40:559 and starting the other one at 01:40:804 - (which of course would finish in the same place in which it does now). This sticks pretty well to the vocals, and I believe it's something a "Normal" player could handle.
    Still, your call!
  4. 02:12:637 (1,3) - Believe it or not, adding some slight curvature to these sliders adds some extra flow to the patterns, that at least I really like.
  5. 02:38:316 (1,2,3) - Maybe I'm just too nazi, but aesthetically, this looks a bit dull. I don't have any suggestions right now, but it just looks a little weird in my eyes. Maybe use something that isn't a wave? Or place the circles somewhere above the slider?
  6. 03:05:629 (1) - Same thing about splitting the spinner!
  7. 03:31:343 (1) - Very nice slider! I did some slight adjustments to make the blanket slightly better, hope you don't mind taking a look at it:
    SPOILER

    180,144,211343,6,0,B|268:144|268:144|344:144|372:216|344:288|272:288|272:288|216:288|216:288|176:288|156:252|176:216|212:216|212:216|276:216,1,560,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:397 (1) - *Nazi* Can you make this more round please?
  2. 00:47:829 (1) - You know... This is much easier with a red anchor instead of some many white ones. Just saying :P
  3. 00:55:730 (1) - Very nice blanket! Had to say it! :3
  4. 02:22:514 (1) - Same nazi stuff of 00:22:397 (1) (and the same thing for the symmetrical version of this slider, 02:24:736 (1)).
Aaaand that should be all! If I keep saying stuff, I'll be forcing my personal opinion too much xD

Superb mapset, I really like it.
Hope you can get this ranked soon!

Best wishes,
Naraku~
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